[OH Updates] [Legal] trademark, skdb - and breaking news, the osi logo was *actually* designed by phil torrone in 2001 - 5 years before it was trademarked by OSI.

Andrew Back andrew at solderpad.com
Fri Sep 23 04:24:26 PDT 2011

Hi Philip,

On 23 September 2011 11:38, phillip torrone <pt at oreilly.com> wrote:


> i wrote a book called flash enabled, designed a logo and had a popular website. i was talking about open source and open hardware back in 2001 so i am sure someone who later designed the osi logo had that in their brain. they likely saw it at OSCON... if i recall correctly around that time at OSCON i talked about open source, hardware and the same stuff i always talk it seems - maybe there is a video of it too with my logo since i was promoting my book. it makes sense, someone from OSI was probably there.

I might be missing something, so this could be a case of me needing to
update my understanding, but isn't Flash technology the antithesis of
open source? The thing that is infamous for not playing well on Linux
and that community efforts can only go so far with owing to its
proprietary nature. The thing that gets embedded into websites and
that more often than not you can't link to its resources because it's
not actually part of the Web, it's just a binary cul-de-sac. The thing
that forces customers to go back to the same designers because their
content is locked up in an unfathomable blob that they don't have the
corresponding source for. The thing that Google stepped back from in a
move towards an Open Web.

So, I'm a bit confused by the open source/open hardware/OSCON and
Flash linkage. Of course, I appreciate that you can have open open
source tools for proprietary tech (I have a more proprietary past,
too, that involved VMS amongst other things).

Spooky logo similarities, though!

Best regards,


Andrew Back
mailto:andrew at solderpad.com

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